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Waverley taxi fees stifle public transport, claims SNP
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Callum Johnstone
2004-02-14 10:44:50 UTC
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Source: The Scotsman
14/02/04

Waverley taxi fees stifle public transport, claims SNP

CRAIG BROWN

Efforts to create an integrated public transport system in Edinburgh
are being hampered by inflated charges for taxis using the capital's
railway stations, it was claimed yesterday.

New figures show that taxi owners are charged an annual fee of £360
for Edinburgh Waverley station, compared with just £56 for Glasgow
Queen Street.

Kenny MacAskill, an SNP MSP for the Lothians, said Network Rail was
undermining efforts to improve public transport system. "Railtrack may
have been able to get away with this while it was part of the private
sector but for a public body like Network Rail to charge taxis such a
huge amount is absolutely outrageous," he said.

Mr MacAskill, the SNP transport spokesman, also criticised Scotrail's
fees for Queen Street Station in Glasgow and Haymarket Station,
claiming that, while they were lower - £56 for Queen Street; £180 for
Haymarket - they were still a significant deterrent for taxis looking
for custom at stations.

Jim McDonald, the chairman of Central Taxis, agreed that the system
was manifestly unfair: "Nobody should be paying to pick up fares at a
public transport place. By doing this Network Rail are not giving the
customers a proper service," he said.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: "We operate a health and safety
policy, and Network Rail needs a way of controlling who comes in and
who goes out of the station."

He said that the figure had been arrived at through discussions with
the Edinburgh Taxi Operators Association.

A spokesman for ScotRail said: "There is no shortage of taxi drivers
willing to pay what we ask at stations. The charge is not a
deterrent."
Callum Johnstone
2004-02-14 10:49:28 UTC
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Source: The Scotsman
14/02/04
Waverley taxi fees stifle public transport, claims SNP
CRAIG BROWN
Efforts to create an integrated public transport system in Edinburgh
are being hampered by inflated charges for taxis using the capital's
railway stations, it was claimed yesterday.
Oh, so they're not being hampered by an unwillingness to re-open the south
suburban line, and by locating the city's main bus station away up at St
Andrew Square?!!
David Marsh
2004-02-14 15:53:00 UTC
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Waverley taxi fees stifle public transport, claims SNP
CRAIG BROWN
Efforts to create an integrated public transport system in Edinburgh
are being hampered by inflated charges for taxis using the capital's
railway stations, it was claimed yesterday.
Oh, so they're not being hampered by an unwillingness to re-open the south
suburban line, and by locating the city's main bus station away up at St
Andrew Square?!!
Indeed, they did seem to miss a trick with the revelopment of the bus
station. While the new bus station and adjacent plaza does look nice,
it's in the wrong place. And given that they were starting from scratch
on the site, it seems a bit puzzling that buses have to turn sharply
right around to get out of the bus station, which is fairly cramped, when
it shouldn't have been too difficult to build a ramp up to St Andrew Square
so that buses could come in one end, and out the other?

The irony is that the temporary bus station in the square was actually
much closer to Waverley Station than the new one is.

Perhaps the ideal thing would be, if they ever pluck up the courage to
redevelop Waverley, would be to have the bus station above the main
concourse of the railway station, accessed by Waverley bridge.


However, with the site they have, I wonder how feasible it would be to
have an underground travelator/escalator link from the railway station
concourse along and up into the St Andrew Square bus station?
It's the sort of thing any other world city would have done..
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Peter William Nisbet
2004-02-14 16:39:27 UTC
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Post by David Marsh
However, with the site they have, I wonder how feasible it would be to
have an underground travelator/escalator link from the railway station
concourse along and up into the St Andrew Square bus station?
It's the sort of thing any other world city would have done..
There is already the Scotland street tunnel which runs from Waverly under
the east side of St. Andrews Square. Therefore a link would be resonable
easy to create, if the will was there.
Neil McDonald
2004-02-14 22:24:07 UTC
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Post by David Marsh
However, with the site they have, I wonder how feasible it would be to
have an underground travelator/escalator link from the railway station
concourse along and up into the St Andrew Square bus station?
It's the sort of thing any other world city would have done..
There is already the Scotland street tunnel which runs from Waverly under
the east side of St. Andrews Square. Therefore a link would be resonable
easy to create, if the will was there.
I think the Scotland Street tunnel is now partially blocked by piles driven
into the ground to support the "Princes Mall" shopping arcade (the old
Waverley Market site).
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Paul in Scotland
2004-02-14 17:39:45 UTC
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Post by David Marsh
Perhaps the ideal thing would be, if they ever pluck up the courage to
redevelop Waverley, would be to have the bus station above the main
concourse of the railway station, accessed by Waverley bridge.
I belive this did form part of the orriginal plan to redevlop Waverly. I
also seem to remeber when the new bus station was being developed, thay said
it would be temporary till a new intgrated transport interchange was built
at waverly.
Post by David Marsh
However, with the site they have, I wonder how feasible it would be to
have an underground travelator/escalator link from the railway station
concourse along and up into the St Andrew Square bus station?
Also remeber hearing about plans to do this. If your on the platform in
Waverly furthest to the north, and at the west end of it, you can see the
entrance opposite to the Scotland Street Tunnel. This was the first
underground railway I believe. There was a plan to sink an elevator shaft
from the bus station down to the tunnel, but I seem to remeber reports that
the elevator shaft would be too deep or something.

At some point they have to say that Waverly can be totally rebuilt - trains
on the bottom level, concorse in the middle, and a bus station on the top.

Paul
Paul Hutchinson
2004-02-14 17:49:25 UTC
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14/02/04
Waverley taxi fees stifle public transport, claims SNP
CRAIG BROWN
Efforts to create an integrated public transport system in Edinburgh
are being hampered by inflated charges for taxis using the capital's
railway stations, it was claimed yesterday.
Oh, so they're not being hampered by an unwillingness to re-open the south
suburban line, and by locating the city's main bus station away up at St
Andrew Square?!!
Edinburgh Integrate transport?
They could start by having Scottish Citylink serve Edinburgh Airport.
The current bus fare of £3.20 to Drumbrae Roundabout is a total rip off!

Paul
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