David Marsh
2004-04-11 14:12:58 UTC
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begin quote from Neil Williams in uk.railway
about: Re: new name for St Pancras
Are all those stations in what the locals would regard as Hamburg city itself?
Are they all in Hamburg state, come to that?
The difficulty with a large conurbation is that at some point you'd have
to make some kind of judgement call between what really was in the City
(ie, city centre) and what wasn't; or name them all "Somecity ..." but that
could be quite misleading over an extended citycentre-urbancity-suburbs..
And what about cities with contiguous suburbs which are in different
counties (Glasgow being a case in point, eg Glasgow(?) Drumry (almost in
Clydebank, both in West Dunbartonshire))?
other-centre in its own right, and sufficiently far enough away from
Central London that adding "London" to the name would be misleading.
Hmm, the latter _really_ ought to be Edinburgh Central for clarity and
neatness although I imagine there'd be huge uproar against it.
I wonder if "Waverley" is sufficiently well-known worldwide that a
change isn't necessarily needed. I'm sure pretty much every tourist
guide names it in full and obligingly anecdotes the origin of the name.
And how do we deal with the likes of Glasgow Central and Glasgow Queen
Street? Both are equally major stations. I supposed they could be
renamed North Central Station and South Central Station to reflect this
(as Queen Street doesn't really convey its importance), but that's a bit
of a mouthful (and tends to work better in German than in English!).
eg, Dumbarton Central/Dumbarton East; Greenock Central/Greenock West.
(also, Ardrossan Town, Prestwick Town, Dunfermline Town)
I guess the reason there aren't more is because many towns and cities
(particularly in England) lost all/most other stations and therefore the
Central station was in fact the only station and so the descriptor fell
out of use..
begin quote from Neil Williams in uk.railway
about: Re: new name for St Pancras
Not that surprising - more or less all the mainline stations in the
original HVV area are prefixed "Hamburg" (though to avoid confusion newer
signs tend to have the prefix in a smaller font).
Difficult one, though.original HVV area are prefixed "Hamburg" (though to avoid confusion newer
signs tend to have the prefix in a smaller font).
Are all those stations in what the locals would regard as Hamburg city itself?
Are they all in Hamburg state, come to that?
The difficulty with a large conurbation is that at some point you'd have
to make some kind of judgement call between what really was in the City
(ie, city centre) and what wasn't; or name them all "Somecity ..." but that
could be quite misleading over an extended citycentre-urbancity-suburbs..
And what about cities with contiguous suburbs which are in different
counties (Glasgow being a case in point, eg Glasgow(?) Drumry (almost in
Clydebank, both in West Dunbartonshire))?
The equivalent would be something like "London East Croydon"
Croydon may well be in Greater London, but it's definitely a town orother-centre in its own right, and sufficiently far enough away from
Central London that adding "London" to the name would be misleading.
or "Manchester Stockport".
Ditto.Now there's a question - why is it that (outside London) we don't have
such things and rely on local knowledge? Farnborough Main is the only one
I can think of that even comes close in naming terms.
Edinburgh Park, Edinburgh Haymarket, Edinburgh Waverley (oops).such things and rely on local knowledge? Farnborough Main is the only one
I can think of that even comes close in naming terms.
Hmm, the latter _really_ ought to be Edinburgh Central for clarity and
neatness although I imagine there'd be huge uproar against it.
I wonder if "Waverley" is sufficiently well-known worldwide that a
change isn't necessarily needed. I'm sure pretty much every tourist
guide names it in full and obligingly anecdotes the origin of the name.
And how do we deal with the likes of Glasgow Central and Glasgow Queen
Street? Both are equally major stations. I supposed they could be
renamed North Central Station and South Central Station to reflect this
(as Queen Street doesn't really convey its importance), but that's a bit
of a mouthful (and tends to work better in German than in English!).
Not invented here?
We do have quite a lot of stations named "Somecity Central" though.eg, Dumbarton Central/Dumbarton East; Greenock Central/Greenock West.
(also, Ardrossan Town, Prestwick Town, Dunfermline Town)
I guess the reason there aren't more is because many towns and cities
(particularly in England) lost all/most other stations and therefore the
Central station was in fact the only station and so the descriptor fell
out of use..
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